After the record came out, you hit the road with Neil Young and Sonic Youth. What was that tour like?
It was good and it was bad. For us, it was a great opportunity to play in front of some crowds that maybe weren’t around during the punk scene. The problem was if we were at, for instance, Madison Square Garden, if we did have 300 fans there that night, we’d have never known it because it was arranged seating and our fans aren’t used to that. On the good side, I was becoming very groove-oriented at that time and I would watch Crazy Horse turn their back on 10,000 people and walk back up to the drummer and lock into the groove, and I was realizing that if the song doesn’t have a groove, you’re just bashing through chords. So it really reinforced the foundation of music I had grown up with prior to punk, from the third grade on: the Beatles, the Stones, Led Zeppelin, Bad Company and ZZ Top, all those bands had thick grooves. It was a schooling for me.